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Democratic presidential candidates address gay issues in HRC forum
Only three candidates support gay marriage; John Kerry claims broadest, longest GLBT support
Published Thursday, 24-Jul-2003 in issue 813
Seven Democratic candidates for president made their pitch for gay votes at a mid-day forum on July 15, sponsored by the Human Rights Campaign (HRC) and broadcast on C-SPAN. Rev. Al Sharpton’s comments drew perhaps the most enthusiastic applause, while other commitments kept Senators John Edwards (North Carolina) and Bob Graham (Florida) from participating. The audience hissed when Sens. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut and John Kerry of Massachusetts said marriage is a right reserved in America only for men and women.
HRC Executive Director Elizabeth Birch opened the gathering by noting “the monumental paradigm shift” taking place in America in which its “gay sons and daughters are worthy of being treated with dignity and as whole human beings.”
Turning to the Lawrence v. Texas decision, Birch said, “The highest court in the land has concluded that we as a people, and also as families, are worthy of constitutional protection. It has broken a dam of bias and no doubt will usher in a new era of greater fairness and equity as new laws are passed to address so many parts of our lives that remain unaddressed.”
Under the format, each candidate was allotted 10 minutes, time for brief opening and closing remarks sandwiched around a grilling by persistent ABC News veteran Sam Donaldson. The candidates spoke in the order in which they accepted HRC’s invitation.
This forum is “an extraordinary statement about the journey traveled” by the gay community said Sen. John Kerry (Massachusetts). He claimed “the broadest, strongest, and longest record of support” for GLBT community concerns among the candidates running.
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John Kerry
It began with his support of gay Vietnam vets in 1971. Kerry also cosponsored gay civil rights legislation in 1985, “before Ellen Degeneres, before ‘Will & Grace,’” he said. Kerry also noted that he was the only senator up for reelection to vote against the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) in 1996, and “to go to the floor of the United States Senate and say this was gay bashing and beyond the dignity of the Senate.”
Kerry also pointed to his work fighting AIDS, including a proposal made two and a half years ago addressing the epidemic in Africa. His campaign treasurer is an openly gay man.
When Donaldson pressed him on his support for civil unions but not same-sex marriages, Kerry said, “It is important to do what we can do,” which is achieve access to the benefits of marriage. “I don’t believe it is a distinction [between the two words] that makes a difference.”
“But if in your mind there is no distinction” pressed Donaldson, then why have two categories?
Kerry said that Americans for cultural and historical reasons view marriage as between a man and a woman.
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Carol Moseley-Braun
When pressed on gays in the military, the Vietnam veteran said he was one of only four Senators to testify against the current ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ policy. “I thought that every single American ought to be able to serve,” Kerry said.
Rep. Dennis Kucinich (Ohio) offered a generic record of support on gay issues. He supports gay marriage and pledged that as President he would lead the fight to repeal DOMA and block a constitutional amendment on marriage. He was equally blunt with the military, dismissing views of the generals. “Rebellion in the military!” he huffed, “Oh, I don’t see that happening.”
“We cannot have states making different rules with respect to basic civil rights,” he said, supporting federal intervention on the marriage issue. Kucinich said he is willing to appoint gays and lesbians to the Supreme Court “as long as they are willing to uphold Roe v. Wade,” the historic case that gave women in the U.S. the right to choose an abortion.
“I know I may not look like any president you have seen before,” began former Sen. Carol Moseley-Braun, who emphasized her 20-year record of support on gay issues at both the state and federal levels. Moseley-Braun said she wants to “liberate America from the prejudice and fear with which [the right wing] have hijacked our country,” tracing her support for gay marriage back to her aunt, who married a white man at a time when interracial marriage was still illegal in many states. “It is constitutionally impermissible to deny a person the right to marry who they want to,” she said, but as a practical matter, added, “States issue marriage licenses” and the matter needs to be resolved at that level.
Moseley-Braun called ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ “a mistake” and “an embarrassment” that “should not have happened. The issue is one of conduct.” In her closing statement Moseley-Braun said, “It is time to take the ‘men only’ sign off the White House door.” Howard Dean, the former governor of Vermont, received probably the most sustained applause on being introduced. Dean touted having signed the first same-sex civil unions bill in the nation and speaking in opposition to DOMA when it was proposed. He believes the law is unconstitutional because marriage is not a federal issue. “I’ll do everything in my power to repeal it,” he told the audience.
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Al Sharpton
Donaldson pressed on whether Dean thought that the marriages of gay couples in Canada ought to be recognized in the U.S. “The federal government cannot tell a state that they have to have marriage or civil unions, but ... those citizens are entitled to the same rights,” even if they are called something different.
“Why is the word [marriage] a hang up?” asked Donaldson. Dean answered by classifying marriage as having a “long, long history as a religious institution,” even when Donaldson used the example of marriage licenses issued by justices of the peace.
Sen. Joe Lieberman (Connecticut) virtually ignored gay issues in his opening statement. When Donaldson pressed on support of marriage or civil unions, Lieberman said he would “leave the question to the states,” defending marriage’s “special status in our culture, our society, our history.” Lieberman said he is also working at the federal level “to protect [gays] from unfair treatment” by “reviewing one by one” the laws and regulations affecting the thousand-plus benefits associated with marriage.
Lieberman opposed DADT, and said he “absolutely” would include gays and lesbians among his nominations. “My administration will reflect the full face of America, the rainbow.”
“Many people observe the struggle [for human rights]; I have been a participant in the struggle,” said Rev. Al Sharpton. To him, the inference of the question on gay marriage “is that gays and lesbians are not human beings that can make decisions like any other human being. We must stop this separation of gays and lesbians from other Americans.… Even with those that are liberal on the issue, there is an understanding that there is something that is different and less than human about you.
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Joe Lieberman
“If people respect you, it is not about gays and lesbians having the right to marry, it is about human beings having the right to marry who they choose.” Sharpton continued, “It’s like saying, we give blacks, or whites, or Latinos the right to shack up but not marry.” The audience roared their approval.
Sharpton called the issue of gay marriage “a human rights question” and said “church leaders ought to lead.” He said he would “use the bully pulpit” of the White House to help to change the political atmosphere.
Sharpton posed a rhetorical question to drive home his point: “Do you support the Latino right to vote — or do you support everyone’s right to vote? You must change the language of the debate.”
“Women didn’t get the right to vote by osmosis,” added Sharpton. “Black people didn’t get the right to vote by internal lobbying in Washington.”
Donaldson asked how Sharpton would end discrimination in the military, to which Sharpton answered, by putting people in authority to carry out the will of the President. “Anyone guilty of discrimination ought to be fired. They are violating the law. This election is [about] where we are going as a Party,” said Sharpton, urging the candidates to turn the party around and “stop imitating Republicans.”
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Richard Gephardt
Rep. Richard Gephardt of Missouri was given the unenviable task of following Sharpton. His approach was a folksy schmoozing of the Human Rights Campaign, a recitation of his support for pro-gay legislation in the face of “a hostile Republican Party,” and a story of his lesbian daughter Chrissy. Gephardt justified his support of civil unions as “something that can be accomplished.” He also does not support gay marriage.
As to whether gay couples who marry in Canada should have their marriages recognized in the U.S., Gephardt said, “I suppose it should be a policy of reciprocity.” Gephardt closed by speaking on job creation, tax cuts, and “the moral issue” of health care for every American. He used the example of a person with HIV who does not have health insurance.
Bob Witeck, a communications consultant heavily involved in Democratic politics, said he thought the forum went well, though his one reservation was that the format did not offer much of an opportunity for the candidates to listen to and learn from each other or the audience.
HRC Political director Winnie Stachelberg said that HRC “may or may not” endorse a candidate in the Democratic primary, “but certainly not before early next year.”
Despite the differences over gay marriage, overall the candidates agree with most of the policy positions of the HRC, supporting anti-discrimination laws, hate crimes legislation, increased funding for HIV/AIDS research and treatment, and federal domestic partnership benefits.
Birch said HRC would invite Bush and other Republicans to future forums.
Bush has said “marriage is between a man and a woman,” but he has sidestepped the constitutional marriage amendment issue.
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